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Check out the latest issue of Lessons From the Fringe!!
In this episode, we look at some of the nuanced rules interactions to wrap your head around if you want to push Anje Falkenrath as far as she can possibly go. Points covered include:
- Breaking Necropotence by overcoming the designers’ intentions
- Winning in your End Step, Cleanup Step, or right over the top of another player trying to combo out
- Cleanup Sculpting without Gitrog
- Using both parts of the Madness ability to your advantage
- Real world examples
- and more!
As always, questions, comments, and criticism is welcome.
And before you ask, yes there is more to come on Yarok 😉
Check out the latest issue of Lessons From the Fringe!! As always, questions, comments, and criticism is welcome. And before you ask, yes there is more to come on Yarok 😉 submitted by /u/cobblepott to r/CompetitiveEDH [li…
Looking to pick up something like this to store multiple decks and maybe a playmat/dice (which I can also take with me for extended play sessions with friends at their places). The Superhive’s magnets I think was improved since the Prof reviewed them a while back. But I’m not sure if that thing can fit Satin Towers.
Ideally would like that Legion Blackfire Garage thing the Prof also reviewed, but last I checked that thing sold out super fast and have never been restocked since.
Anyone got similar alternatives they can suggest? I use Satin Towers and Boulders exclusively for my EDH decks, so at the very least it got to be able to accomodate the former
It may not be tier 1, and maybe a bit irritating to play against, but boy is Cauldron Familiar/Witch’s Oven a fun deck to play. Lots of variants out there, I’ve been on Rakdos on Arena B01. Mayhem Devil has been an all-star, as well as the Claim the Firstborn/Oven combo. However, I just tried out an Orzhov version – Cruel Celebrant is also the real deal, lots of life gain, especially with Teysa Karlov out. Corpse Knight, of course Midnight Reaper – lots of synergies. Anyone having success with either of these, and have an optimized list to share?
Priest of the Forgotten Gods is great with Chandra, Acolyte of Flames in Rakdos (saccing the tokens seems bonkers every turn), but otherwise seems not so strong unless you have a ton of sac fodder. Am I missing something?
Gutterbones is great on the play, not as good on the draw of course.
Orzhov Enforcer holds off much bigger creatures on the ground and afterlife is great for saccing value.
I’m on mobile right now, otherwise I’d share the lists I’ve tried (sorry). Playing Arena BO1 but interested in paper Standard FNM.
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[The Spike Feeders] A $25 Love Letter to Commander’s Quarters (part 1) | The Spike Feeders Commander Gameplay | S4E1
It’s been like 3 months since our season 3 finale! We spent the summer lounging by the water, filming and editing a ton, and hitting MagicFest Vegas. Hard.
We figured we’d kick things off with a love letter to our favourite Budget EDH content in the entire world – The Commander’s Quarters. Mitch’s decks are powerful, and it’s totally reasonable to just straight up buy one. They’re cheaper than preconstructed decks and are laser focused on their theme.
Jim: $25 The Scarab God.
This deck is Jim’s favourite Commanders Quarters deck of all time. It pumps out the zambies like nobody’s business, has a nice tight curve, and has a surprising amount of action on turn 1.
Eliot: $25 Nezahal Voltron
I have to admit, when I first saw Nezahal spoiled I looked at it as a control finisher. Voltron was the last thing on my mind. Mitch saw a way to get in for beats, draw a ton of cards, and repeatedly bounce non-seacreature permanents and tied all these elements together in a surprisingly oppressive decklist.
Bill’s obsessed with this deck. It’s synergistic, combos at the drop of a hat, and is totally capable of keeping the board entirely clear. It’s the only budget deck he’s actually willing to play without us bugging him.
Maddy: $25 Feather, the Redeemed
Maddy bought the Feather and the Yawgmoth decks to bring to Vegas and lent Yawgmoth to Bill for this episode. She was really excited to play Feather, and after playing against it I can definitely see why. This deck just straight up kills people. It mitigates the lack of card advantage in Boros by ensuring that you don’t go down a card when you cast a spell, and takes advantage of card advantage and filtering on cards like [[Samut’s Sprint]] and [[Expedite]] to keep the pedal to the metal.
As always, this section contains spoilers! Go watch the episode before you keep reading.
8:14: When you’re playing Voltron, especially one as aggressive as Feather, when you choose to attack the first player you’re usually committing to attacking them until they’re dead. Jim was definitely the biggest threat at the table when Maddy chose to attack him, but did she make the right choice?
12:26: Maddy acknowledges it a little later in the episode, but she should likely be casting any instant speed action after blockers are declared so she gives minimal information to her opponents.
16:41: Maddy could have attacked Eliot and taken him out, and Bill would have let it happen. Was this the right choice?
18:50 Eliot discards to hand size, but Nezahal has a Spellbook effect stapled to it! As a result, we have terminated Eliot’s contract and are currently looking at applicants to replace him. Not actually, but man Nezahal has a lot of text. I think at this point if you told me it taps for green I’d believe you.
22:03: Maddy discards Double Cleave. This one’s more expensive than some of the other double strike enablers in the deck but it is easier to cast. Later on this is relevant because she’s got 2 white mana up and needs a double strike spell to kill Eliot.
Would you have made any different decisions than the ones we made in the episode? Let me know in the comments below!
Our First Ever Double Up
We’re trying something a little different for this episode. We were able to get a ton of content filmed over the summer, and for some games we had time to shuffle up and play a second game with the same decks! The second game is going to get declassified next week, but if you want to watch the games back-to-back, head over to our Patreon! We’ll be doing a few double ups this season, so you don’t want to miss them.
Make sure you check out www.spikefeeders.com/shop to pick up Spike Feeders merchandise! Our white and gold foil playmats are totally sold out right now (they were really popular in Vegas), but we should have more in stock early next week.
Here’s the latest iteration of my take on Yarok.
State of the deck:
Big shake up!
Write-up rewrite in progress…
Apply stax to slow the table, then go infinite and win.
Yarok doubles up on punishing passives like Overburden and also accentuates parity breakers like Lotus Cobra and Amulet of Vigor . This forms a great backbone to support lines involving Root Maze or Orb of Dreams . Under such lines, all your lands effectively get doubled and we have ways to reconcile Overburden returning two lands to hand whenever a creature enters. Arboreal Grazer and Elvish Pioneer scale along with Overburden (with or without Yarok) to break parity along that line and add a tap clause for lands to further embellish Amulet of Vigor . Burgeoning helps maintain a faster pace than the table as well, given the unique texture of a ‘landless’ table.
With Yarok on the table Shrieking Drake + Cloud of Faeries yields infinite mana. With infinite mana, Shrieking Drake + Coiling Oracle or similar draws the deck and lets you win via Laboratory Maniac .
- With Yarok (UU): Cloud of Faeries + Coiling Oracle + Shrieking Drake , etc
- Without Yarok (UUB + draw): Spellseeker + Laboratory Maniac : Demonic Consultation
- Use Survival to put Cloud of Faeries + Dream Stalker + Coiling Oracle in the yard, reanimate Faeries and Stalker with Necromancy . Dream Stalker bounces Necromancy . Repeat for infinite mana, then switch to Stalker + Oracle.
The number of ‘incidental’ lines under Yarok that let you gain advantage is positively enormous. I’ll break those down soon… but they’re things like this:
- Grazer enters and creates 4 triggers. Let the two Overburden triggers resolve to return two lands, then let the two Arboreal Grazer triggers resolve to put them back into play. Each land will trigger Amulet of Vigor twice, so you’ll get 4 mana for a single Grazer etb.
- Dance of Many enters triggering twice and creates two copies of Risen Reef . All three Reefs see two elementals enter and each trigger is doubled so you get a total of 12 Risen Reef triggers for your investment.
- Cast Crop Rotation and grab a fetchland. Both Lotus Cobra and Tatyova, Benthic Druid double trigger for the fetch and the fetch target so your works out to 4 mana, 4 cards, and an untapped land at instant speed.
… on and on and on …
All these ‘combos’ are purely incidental, i.e., you’d never go looking for any of these card sequences, but they emerge along the way as you’re setting up the actual lines you want. All the extra cards and mana provide plenty of support to fight through opponent interaction, making it more likely for you to succeed where a more canonical, tighter-margined line would get otherwise disrupted.
I’d be interested in feedback of all kinds. Questions, critiques, suggestions, all thoughts welcome!
This resource is intended to explain the ideas behind winconless decks, when to cut wincons and some of the most basic “winconless” approaches.
First up, “Wincon” is short for “Win Condition”, but what counts as one?
The waters around this can be a little bit muddy. Some people say that the combo set up is the wincon, while some focus on the outlet.
In a deck like Breakfast Hulk; Hermit Druid, the Breakfast Combo, Laboratory Maniac, Hulk Death Trigger or even Ad Nauseam could all be described as “wincons” in different contexts.
When discussing “winconless”, it’s typically the piece that takes you from “comboing off” to “dead opponents” that is counted as a wincon. In Breakfast Hulk, that would be the Laboratory Maniac.
There is a spectrum of how useful outside its role as a win condition a given spell is.
Near the bottom would be a card like Exsanguinate. Killing players in a non-infinite way is very difficult, and it doesn’t really have utility outside killing people. When you aren’t winning with it, Laboratory Maniac is a Gray Ogre, which is a card often used as the butt of jokes about bad cards.
Up from there would be a card like Grapeshot. Doesn’t do much, but in a pinch can remove a truly problematic permanent. Slightly better is something like Blue Sun’s Zenith, which is a mediocre card draw spell, or Walking Ballista, which has a moderately useful board presence.
Winconless decks seek to win using cards closest to the “useful spell” end of this spectrum.
One of the first decks to go “winconless” was Tasigur. Beast Within and Reality Shift are both passable removal spells, and when looped infinitely with Tasigur, they let you destroy all of someone’s permanents and exile their library.
Some Green-based decks like Selvala and Momir went for Eternal Witness loops, repeatedly casting some standalone spells to win.
We see it in lots of other decks as well, perhaps most famously in Scepter Thrasios, where the “Twister Loop” was used to recur some spell to kill.
It comes down to card quality. If you have infinite mana and access to your whole library, who cares if your win is pieced together from 5 cards? But when you are trying to play the game and avoid losing, wouldn’t you prefer if you didn’t draw Aetherflux Reservoir?
The combos most friendly towards being made winconless are ones that involve infinite mana or draw, such as Scepter with an outlet in the CZ, Top + Future sight etc.
One of the most common culprits is Laboratory Maniac or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries in decks without Tainted Pact/Demonic Consultation. If you have to draw your entire deck to win with a card, chances are you can cobble together a win out of the cards you drew, rather than running a dedicated wincon. This, and other similar scenarios, are when to look for cutting wincons.
Not that all dedicated wincons should be cut, for example, storm decks can “manually” use Aetherflux Reservoir when not going infinite, or certain spells may allow you to win at instant speed, or through some disruption or hate piece. “Winconless” should be applied only to cards that do not enable wins that are otherwise unavailable.
Some examples of decks that commonly include unnecessary wincons, and could go winconless:
Laboratory Maniac or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries in Urza, Lord High Artificer
You are casting your whole deck for free. Look for Twister/Narsets Reversal loops, or Codex Shredder + scepter to mill.
Laboratory Maniac or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries in Chulane, Teller of Tales
Your various combos draw your deck, and typically have a way to start generating mana once you draw a given piece. You also have tons of ways of repeatedly using Eternal Witness, and often Finale of Devastation
A life loss spell in The Gitrog Monster
You make infinite mana and loop your whole deck. You can use Finale of Devastation, Assassin’s Trophy etc.
Storm Payoffs in Elsha/Kykar
These decks do Top+Future Sight style combos and draw the whole deck. It’s easy to net mana and go in to some loop
There are lots of tools available to winconless decks, and many of them are both recent quite affordable (with a couple exceptions). They fall in to a few different categories:
These are spells that will actually win you the game if cast infinite under the right scenarios:
- Swan Song for infinite 2/2 birds (requires haste or the ability to survive a turn cycle)
- Assassin’s Trophy to destroy all of your opponent’s permanents
- Winds of Rebuke to mill your opponents infinitely
- Extract to exile your opponents libraries
- Praetors Grasp to exile your opponents libraries
- Finale of Devastation to kill with infinite mana and some creatures
Note that Winds of Rebuke and Assassin’s Trophy may not be suitable for Twister loops as Timetwister will reset your progress.
These are spells that let you leverage infinite access to your deck by recurring spells (through draw or something like Urza/The First Sliver)
Multi-Buyback spells such as:
Timetwister, Memory’s Journey, Echo of Eons. Any spell that lets you put more than one card from your graveyard back in to your library to draw again. These will put both Payloads and single buyback spells back in to your library
Single Buyback Spells such as:
Regrowth, Noxious Revival, Eternal Witness, Codex Shredder. These let you buy back your multi-buyback spell of loop enabler, and will in turn be bought back by them.
Copy Artifact – Copying your Isochron Scepter with Dramatic Reversal and putting a payload under it
Narset’s Reversal – Either under Scepter or with Bonus Round, this spell lets you copy payload spells infinitely. It can also function as a single buyback spell by copying your multi buyback spell and returning it to your hand
The basic Twister Loop:
Requirements: Some way to infinitely cast spells that are in your library, either a combo of Infinite Mana + Draw, or infinite cascade, infinite urza activations or similar. Timetwister or an analogue, Regrowth or an analogue, Payload spell.
- Find your Payload spell
- Cast your Payload spell
- Find your Twister effect
- Cast your Twister effect (shuffling in your Regrowth and Payload effects)
- Find your Regrowth Effect
- Cast your Regrowth Effect, returning Twister
The basic dual scepter setup:
Requirements: Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal making infinite mana. Access to your whole deck. Copy Artifact, Payload that can go under scepter (or payload that can’t + narset’s reversal).
- Cast Copy Artifact, copying Isochron Scepter, Imprinting Narset’s Reversal
- Cast your Payload Spell.
- Activate the Scepter with Narset’s Reversal, returning your Payload to your hand and copying it
- Let the Copy Resolve
- Activate the Scepter with Dramatic Reversal, untapping both Scepters
If you have a payload that goes under scepter, you can skip steps 2 and 4, and modify step 3 to cast the payload off of scepter.
Downsides of going Winconless
- Winconless combos often require more cards, so there can be increased risk of losing access to something important.
- Most winconless lines are not shortcuttable, which means you will have to execute an obnoxious combo if somebody asks you to
- Winconless combos can be more difficult to execute
If you have any suggestions or questions, please feel free to comment, I will probably turn this in to a nicer formatted and updated doc someday.
Many of my friends and family have been playing Magic during their school years, some as early as 1995, but go on long breaks afterwards. Every few years we had a phase where every few months or weeks we would play 60 card decks against each other, either 1v1 or multiplayer, but we didn’t play a format so the power levels were wastly different, and the games weren’t fun for many of us. Imagine the one guy who didn’t upgrade his deck in the last 20 years against someone with the thopter sword combo.
Years later, we have a thriving playgroup, having magic nights multiple times per week and having much more fun. What happened?
Well, first commander happened but it only caught the ones who were both competitive and had a large card pool. The others reluctantly tried it but never had enough of the right cards to have any chance of winning. Imagine a reanimator deck full of reanimation spells and fatties but the player didn’t have any spells to put them into the graveyard.
It was so stressfull going through the period of RL card spikes when you wondered whether you could get that dual land you need for that deck before it got unobtainable. Or the wasted money when ordering cards for a new deck only to find that the deck was boring for the player and the cards never get used. Or having to limit yourself to a number of decks equal to your number of Sol Rings or whatever key card the decks needed. Or all the time spent looking at finance posts trying to find the best time to get that card. Or having to buy certain cards while they were still cheap just on the chance that you need them some day when you can’t afford them anymore.
The fun started when we began proxying. And I don’t mean one or two cards, I mean full on proxying, like decks with 100% proxies, including proxy basic lands included for a matching style. And I have to tell you, it has been liberating!
In our final push of proxying, even the ones who have cards like duals and fetches actually took them out of their decks and replaced them with proxies and it has been great! I actually like the Masters Edition black bordered duals more than the faded white bordered revised ones. There are beautiful alternate artworks that I would actually buy if there are real, like from [[Emrakul, the Promised End]].
But it’s not like we never buy cards. Sometimes the original is really nice and affordable. Then I buy a large amount of a card that are good in many decks, like [[Compost]], and give out a few. Or I really want to have that judge foil old border [[Sword of Feast and Famine]]. Or that From the Vault Set. But it doesn’t have to be when I build the deck but at a later point when there is a good offer on Card Market. Or when the card rotated out of standard but I don’t have to wait 2 years before you can use the card in a deck.
And it is so much less stressfull than carrying around hundreds of €s around every time. We play in the garden. We play when there is a strong wind and cards fly around. We play near the camp fire. We put our drinks on the table near our cards. We try new decks and new ideas. We have fun with crazy expensive cards like [[Eureka]]. And I suggest you do to!
Recently, in this subreddit and in other outlets, there’s been talk of a breaking away from the Rules Committee. r/CompetitiveEDH is, despite the long discussions in light of the recent bans, not going to endorse the discussed separate rulesets nor banlists.
As to why, it is time for a reminder:
The community here has, from the beginning, existed as a safe haven for people looking to explore the Commander format, as-is, to its extremes. Consequently, it also exists to explore what Commander can offer to ones with a mindset of (within the rules of the game) aiming to achieve victory as a primary objective.
The social contract of cEDH players is predicated first and foremost on the above: the mutual fun of the pod is emergent from the thrill of chasing that objective in both tight technical gameplay and ingenuity in deck construction. Secondly, it is built on upholding and adhering to the first and foremost of our rules: being excellent to each other. This community still exists today as the balance and harmony between these two philosophies.
We are not looking to create new formats or banlists. We are Commander players at heart, and what we’ve been aiming to achieve is not different than the many others that play at other power levels. We’re seeking to express ourselves through deckbuilding (with rigor and power as the driving entities rather than other goals) and create compelling, social gameplay that embodies how we enjoy Magic. The mindset and purpose of the current community was created with these gameplay- and socially-oriented goals in mind. The vastness of the card pool coupled with the dynamisms of multiplayer create an unexplored space in which the more curious deckbuilders, brewers and fine-tuners can (and eventually always will) explore. Commander in all its power levels provides players with nearly infinite possibilities in deckbuilding and self-expression; the possibilities for cEDH, while more finite, are vast and still have space for exploration. Even now. Especially now.
Remember, if the format was solved, none of us would be here asking questions, giving or taking criticism, writing posts or primers, and creating content pretty much every day with this very format in mind. We love Commander for what it is, and we will continue to keep playing the format that we set out to.
For every Magic format, be it a casual or a competitive one, there is the Timmy, there is the Johnny, and there is the Spike. And even if a new format were to split into a separate banlist, this community is and will be that Spike that plays Commander.
-The Competitive EDH Mod Team
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I hope you enjoyed Modern Horizons; we got some excellent upgrades.
Here are some of my general notes and my updates to my paper decks.
Force of Negation: Very nice. Not for every deck, but it’s awesome that we’re getting flexible options we can tailor builds with.
Canopy Lands & Talismans: These are just fantastic. I think there should be a little reservation about the life payment on the Canopies in a heavily life-oriented deck.
Mox Tantalite: Just not good enough. Terrible topdeck. Compares unfavorably to Search for Tomorrow (which already sees no play).
Yawgmoth: Probably not strong enough as a commander to sit with the big dogs. NASTY in Hapatra’s 99.
Plague Engineer: Very narrow. As a stretch, it could name Elf or Human in an extremely inbred meta.
Yuriko: Yuriko got some NICE buffs that give her a lot of extra reach. Changeling Outcast, Faerie Seer, Ingenious Infiltrator, Mist-Syndicate Naga, Fallen Shinobi
Echo of Eons: There’s a lot of hype about this card, but I feel strongly that this card isn’t good enough for full power cEDH, and it’s not an optimal budget substitution. Wheels either need to be played early (you can’t), have mana left over (you won’t), or be played into a payoff (too big of a mana barrier). If your plan A is attempting to Entomb it or loot it away, that’s too clunky of a plan. There are much better cards to do Timetwister-style loops with such as Memory’s Journey or Time Spiral + Narset’s Reversal.
Spice without an obvious home: Hogaak (in the 98/99), Cabal Therapist, Rain of Revelation, Archmage’s Charm
Red & White Forces: Come on. 🙁
Pretty massive upgrade to the deck. Added a land, as games are going a little later. I don’t think we want Canopy lands here, as with all the life we pay it’s going to be a net loss to cards seen to pay life each turn. I’ll test them and add them to the stock online list if they stay. I’m keeping Vexing Shusher from the Niv build — it’s a house.
- Add: The First Sliver, LabJace, Timetwister (budget: Goblin Bombardment), Riftsweeper, Extract, Morphic Pool
- Cut: Niv-Mizzet Reborn, Sparkcaster, Hydroid Krasis, Circu, Fire Covenant, Sterling Grove
- Considered: Force of Negation, Nurturing Peatland, Waterlogged Grove
Collector Ouphe is a fantastic addition. Force of Vigor also has a lot of potential. Ravenous Slime really wasn’t pulling its weight, and I’d been eyeing Azusa for cuts for a while.
- Add: Collector Ouphe, Force of Vigor, Prismatic Vista
- Cut: Ravenous Slime, Azusa, Snow-Covered Forest
- Considered: Savage Swipe
Talisman is a little stronger in the early game than Signet, and Signet is better on Engine lines; both are nearly equivalent in power. Canopy lands are good here, we ramp a lot (meaning we can avoid tapping it in a lot of scenarios) and don’t mind going late (so turning our lands into gas later is decent). Thrasios mirrors especially tend to be fairly standoffish and go late — we’d rather have advantage from Rhystic Study than watch our Spell Pierce scale off.
- Add: Talisman of Curiosity, Nurturing Peatland, Waterlogged Grove, Rhystic Study
- Cut: Simic Signet, Gemstone Mine, Yavimaya Coast, Spell Pierce
- Considered: Force of Negation, Tribute Mage
Turns out LabJace is the truth. Narset’s Reversal is a little reactive for what we’re trying to accomplish here. Talisman is an upgrade to Signet.
- Add: Talisman of Creativity, Fiery Islet, LabJace
- Cut: Azorius Signet, Urborg, Narset’s Reversal
- Considered: Force of Negation
- Add: Nurturing Peatland
- Cut: Scrubland
- Considered: Force of Vigor
Cutting RG lands for UR and UG Canopies!
- Add: Waterlogged Grove, Fiery Islet
- Cut: Grove of the Burnwillows, Spire Garden
Pondering Mage(jk never lucky)
Newly added to my roster! 🙂
Playing Time Spiral over Sleight of Hand and doing my darndest to figure out how to cut Voltaic Key.
- Add: Force of Negation, Prismatic Vista
- Considered: Mirrodin Beseiged, Tribute Mage
My JVP list is morphing into Urza for the time being. I can only be without High Tide for so long, so we’ll see shortly.
- Add: Force of Negation, Prismatic Vista
- Cut: Serum Visions, Snow-Covered Island
- Considered: Echo of Eons (we actually can loot it here! I still ultimately think it’s too clunky)
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/london-mulligan-2019-06-03 praise Karn, our lord and savior. What does this mean for the format? I would say that it is a nerf to UR Phoenix. It definitely benifits dredge and tron. What do you think? …
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Niv-Mizzet Reborn | EDH Budget Deck Tech $25 | Guilds | Magic the Gathering | The Commander’s Quarters
Niv-Mizzet Reborn | EDH Budget Deck Tech $25 | Guilds | Magic the Gathering | The Commander’s Quarters
On this deck tech we brew with Niv-Mizzet Reborn as our commander. Gain a ton of value from abusing your commanders trigger, and then demolish your opponents by casting a ton of impactful multicolored spells!
What do you think of this version of Niv as a five color commander? Does he have a place outside of cEDH?
Feather is a predatory midrange deck that seeks to accrue advantage throughout highly-interactive cEDH games by sidestepping the need to interact with faster combo decks.
Thanks to Feather’s ability to accrue advantage with cards like Shelter and Defiant Strike, Boros finally has a chance to sit at the big kids table and play some real Magic.
As a predatory midrange deck, our goal is slow the speed of the game while simultaneously allowing our highly interactive “friends” to still be able to play the game and preventing anyone from getting too far ahead. You will need to be political with the interaction you do have. Keep in mind how each spell you cast puts one player ahead or another behind. The goal is to keep each player at the table as far away from winning as possible.
In each pod I like to determine who my “friends” are and who my opponents are during nearly every turn of the game. Each strategy will help you and hurt you to some degree throughout the game.
A Godo, Bandit Warlord deck dropping an early Blood Moon might not effect you personally, but it could mean that your opponents aren’t able to stop Godo from winning. Later in the game, that same stax piece will likely keep those same opponents locked out of the game when you go for the win.
Throughout a game you are trying to walk a tightrope of allowing the interactive decks to stop any of the players closer to winning, while also playing hate pieces that make sure that they can’t win the game immediately after stopping your common foes from winning the game. Make sure that the game is moving in a direction that you are able to interact with. Boros has quite a few ways to deal with a Najeela or a Yisan, but when it comes to countering an Ad Nauseam… not so much.
Protecting the Eagle
Luckily for Feather, not many players immediately see the problem with a Boros commander on the battlefield, and even luckier for us, there is a lot of board wipes and removal that Feather dodges completely or has an answer to. Shelter, Apostle’s Blessing, and Gods Willing are all aggressively costed and protect our commander from a large number of threats to creatures that you will be running into in most metas.
Once you reveal a spell like Shelter or Gods Willing, you may be tempted to cast these spells for an additional Scry or draw in the mid game, but that would often be a mistake. Shelter is one of the best cards in your deck and you wouldn’t want to lose it to a removal spell and get 2 for 1’d when that spell you cast could easily 3 for 1 an opponent later in the game.
Winning the Game
Paradox Engine lines:
- Isochron Scepter + cantrip (draws our deck)
- Sunforger + Mana Rocks + Aetherflux Reservoir
- cantrips + protection spells + Aetherflux Reservoir
The other way to win is using Dualcaster Mage with Twinflame or Heat Shimmer.
These are pretty self explanatory.
Don’t be afraid of using Dualcaster Mage as a Fork, the Paradox Engine lines are numerous enough that they can usually make up for the loss of that combo.
Goofy Feather Lines
There are certainly some goofy feather lines out there so I thought that I would mention them somewhere in this primer.
- You can cast cantrips during your end step so that you don’t have to exile them to hand size.
- You can cast cantrips when a wheel is on the stack to tuck them away until the next end step.
- You can give Feather protection from Red and then cast a massive Rolling Earthquake
- Magnetic Theft will make it so you can cast a spell off of Sunforger for WRR each turn.
- You can tutor for Pyroblast off of Sunforger and target your feather with it. It will go back to your hand and not hurt Feather.
- Carom kills mana dorks, its super useful when you’re blocking with Feather.
- When you’ve drawn your whole deck, you can use Chaos Warp to reset an Isochron Scepter which is cute.
And I am sure I will be adding more as I play the deck.
What to Avoid
Null Rod Stony Silence – These cards may be powerful but in Boros fast mana is an absolute requirement and must not be skipped.
Balduvian Rage – People never seem to see “Target attacking creature.” The whole point of the deck is to target your own creatures, and honestly, you don’t really plan on attacking with feather every turn. She’s a great blocker. Also, the card is really more of a sorcery than a instant if that helps your evaluation.
Collective Defiance – This card looks so cute, and trust me, its way too cute. You’re never really wanting to do any of these things for 3 mana, and you’re especially not doing it for 4. Check out Heartwarming Redemption, at least that can get hit off of Sunforger.
Young Pyromancer Monastery Mentor – These just don’t do enough for their mana. They really don’t fall in line with the game plan that well either. Super cute with Path to Exile though.
Rule of Law Eidolon of Rhetoric – I am concerned that if you play a cantrip you’re 100% open to removal until the end of turn. That is concern is large enough that I won’t play these cards for the time being.
To Be Determined
These cards have not been tested, but they seem like good fits.
Dreadhorde Arcanist – If the card you cast targets a creature you control it goes back to your hand with Feather. Which is nuts.
Heartwarming Redemption – Really good with Sunforger, but otherwise I am not sure.
Reckless Rage – Seems great, need to find a slot.
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Were you considering brewing for [[Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion]]? I certainly was not… Not at first. It wasn’t until after I thoroughly read over his effect and studied up on “Infinite Combat” did I realize that Neheb truly is worthy.
The strategy is simply: Attack, Rinse & Repeat. However, how best can we accomplish this? With this Primer, I figured out how. We run all the wheels, all the (best) extra combats and turns as well as a series of cards that will let us recur those effects to continue what I call “the assault.” We can and will damage out the board, but not without knowing what to look for. If you’ve been considering Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion let me know what you think about the list after a few hands! I can confidently say, [[Godo, Bandit Warlord]] has company now. Be on the lookout for video based primers over on The 99 very soon discussing this deck. To include: the core strategy, inclusions & exclusions as well as gameplay!
-Patrick Marlett, The 99
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I hope you all are even a fraction as excited as I am. Niv is one of my absolute favorite characters in the lore, and I’m thrilled to get to play him at the helm of my favorite deck.
I’ve reworked the Food Chain Tazri primer for the new Niv.
I’ve also made a $700 budget build (as of 4/12/19).
and the wonderful Niv-Mizzet Discord
Recent list changes
Extract -> Sterling Grove: Since adding Entomb for Squee (an instant speed version of Extract), I’ve felt that I may have too many tutors for the cast-from-exiles (CFEs). Sterling Grove is a (great) hit off Niv, tutors Food Chain, protects FC (from Decay!) if it’s redundant, and can pivot to Necropotence or Remora.
Timetwister -> Vexing Shusher: Timetwister is very low synergy in the deck and is worse with more people abusing Smothering Tithe and wheel-steal in general. Happy to have Vexing Shusher in this high-interaction meta.
Swords to Plowshares -> Dovin’s Veto: New Veto is amazing, and Swords is currently the weakest piece of interaction in the list. Since Trophy’s printing, I’ve been preferring the more flexible removal options over dedicated creature removal.
Other multicolor considerations: Manamorphose, Wear//Tear, Treasured Find
Hydroid Krasis: The highest utility outlet, but not a hard outlet. Extra draw, even if overcosted, is welcome on a combo piece. When comboing, cast this first to draw your deck on a cast trigger, and Silence/counter to protect subsequent hard outlet execution.
Circu, Dimir Lobotomist: A hard outlet. Its value case is fairly memey, but he’s relevantly a 2/3 and exile-mill is a more solid win condition than graveyard-mill by Hallimar Excavator.
Sparkcaster: PEW PEW PEW. Not much more to say about infinite burn as a hard outlet stapled to a 5/3.
Sawtooth Loon: A soft outlet that sees more cards. A great budget alternative to Hydroid Krasis. To win with LabMan, use Niv to pull out your multicolor cards, Loon to cycle them back into the deck and redraw them with Niv. Cycling this draws and empties the library.
Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain: Another soft outlet, probably worse than Hydroid Krasis. Good value interaction with Squee.
Balefire Liege: The next best hard outlet. Fairly clunky.
Comparison to Tazri
No verdict on superiority. Tazri and the allies are forwardly more castable than Niv and his outlets, which on the very surface is the more powerful thing for a fast, aggressive deck that needs very minimal mana. The most important interaction being playing out the 2 mana allies for later Food Chain mana; secondarily, Tazri tutors allies to improve Consultation odds and is a solid aggro-soak as a 3/4.
It’s unclear if the extra utility of Niv and his pieces outweighs the specific castability upside Tazri and the allies have, but as new multicolor cards get printed, Niv has the potential to get progressively stronger.
Happy spoiler season!
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